Todd McShay on Jimmy Clausen: How Wrong Can One Man Be?
Let's start out by saying this: I loathe Todd McShay. He comes across as smarmy and entitled, and he has not once said something that made me say "Wow, Todd, great point, I'm really glad you're talking now and not Mel Kiper." He was just on SportsCenter talking about Jimmy Clausen with Kiper and said the following. I took the liberty of transcribing it because I wanted it saved forever to highlight how McShay is so bad at his job. I hope this is online later, and it should be. (For the record, Kiper refuted basically all of these points while McShay just smirked.)
When I watch him - listen, he's improved - well-coached, he comes from a pro-style offense, and I get that, and he has good tools, but he does not have elite physical tools. He is 6'2", barely 6'2", about 215 pounds, he's had a little bit of trouble in terms of getting beat up and I wonder if he's going to hold up physically on the next level. His arm strength is good, it's not great, and if you really study him, he has to overcompensate on a lot of throws, he makes his wide receivers work for the ball constantly. He has good accuracy, but not great accuracy, you talk about intangibles and leadership, go back and watch some of these games, throwing a touchdown pass and pointing at opposing head coaches, getting into an argument and shoving a guy from BC at the end of a game, talking to NFL scouts, guys who were in the locker room and around it, see how he carries himself, I'm not saying he's a bad person, but I do think there are a lot of questions in NFL scouting circles about his overall intangibles and how he's going to be as a leader in the NFL.
Let's break the FJM emergency glass and look at this.
When I watch him - listen, he's improved - well-coached, he comes from a pro-style offense, and I get that,
I'm glad you understand the very basic concepts of A) a quarterback improving from his sophomore to junior year and B) that he learned in an offense under a coach who has a great record with quarterbacks. Great start, Todd.
and he has good tools, but he does not have elite physical tools. He is 6'2", barely 6'2", about 215 pounds, he's had a little bit of trouble in terms of getting beat up and I wonder if he's going to hold up physically on the next level.
Drew Brees is listed at 6' 2", 209 pounds. Aaron Rodgers, 6' 2" and 220. Jimmy's had a bit of trouble getting beat up because he spent most of his formative years running for his life and things weren't super great this season either in terms of protection. How do you know how anyone will hold up at the next level? Clausen has missed exactly zero starts the last two season, although he didn't play most of the Purdue game, only the beginning and the game-winning drive when his team needed him at the end.
His arm strength is good, it's not great,
He can't throw it through the goalposts from his knees like Kyle Boller and JaMarcus Russell, who will be your Pro Bowl starters at quarterback in a couple of weeks.
and if you really study him, he has to overcompensate on a lot of throws, he makes his wide receivers work for the ball constantly.
THIS IS SUCH A LIE I AM WRITING IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE I AM SO ANGRY. Kiper counted by saying "I talked to Golden Tate, he said there were very few if any balls he had to adjust to," and McShay replied "I don't care what Golden Tate, if you watch the tape-". Let's watch the tape, Todd!
SO MUCH ADJUSTING.
He has good accuracy, but not great accuracy,
Jimmy was fourth in the country in completion percentage.
you talk about intangibles and leadership, go back and watch some of these games, throwing a touchdown pass and pointing at opposing head coaches, getting into an argument and shoving a guy from BC at the end of a game, talking to NFL scouts, guys who were in the locker room and around it, see how he carries himself, I'm not saying he's a bad person,
"But everyone I talked to said he was a total dick! But I'm not saying it!"
but I do think there are a lot of questions in NFL scouting circles about his overall intangibles and how he's going to be as a leader in the NFL.
I'm curious as to whether Todd McShay actually watched any Notre Dame games from 2009, because in games against Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Washington, USC, BC, Navy, Pitt and Stanford, Jimmy Clausen played better and better as the game went on and gave his team a chance to win when they probably didn't even deserve that honor.
I'm going to be out and about this afternoon, but can someone please find a video of this and post it?
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Let's just agree Todd is a 'tard and move on with it.
Though maybe it’s good…I’m a Broncos fan and it would sure be nice if the 10 teams drafting above us used his reasoning so Jimmy fell to us.
Clausen
The only thing I was ever annoyed with was that I thought his deep ball had a bit too much air underneath it and was usually underthrown.
SethGrandpa: I doubt he makes it past my Seahawks. I think I see you commenting on every SBN site I belong to.
It's due to his mechanics and release point
He has a slingy 80ish% side arm throw. That coupled with the fact that he doesn’t have elite arm strength, requires him to overcompensate on deep throws by putting more air under them, and of course that’s when they have a tendency to float and/or come up short. He does have a lot of other things going for him though, and this one might still be able to be corrected with the right coaching.
Good article
McShay is a tool. Clausen is going to go #1.
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I still think StL goes with a boy named Suh
Pitchers and Catchers report February 17th... And so begins my masochistic addiction.
by averagegatsby on Jan 16, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
If the Rams are smart they do
Suh is the best player in college football and much more pro ready than Clausen is.
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by lookingdeadred on Jan 17, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not Kiper
Really the whole problem with McShay is he is not needed. Kiper has been around the NFL draft since before McShay could shave. Michael Crabtree almost didn’t even sign because of what Kiper said he SHOULD have gone. Who gets fired up for the draft to listen to Todd McShay. It’s like turning on Mike and Mike and having to listen to Mark Schlereth, AWFUL.
There are positives and negatives to Clausen, but don’t just hate on the guy because of the clips you saw on Sportscenter. I agree, Todd, watch the tape. Watch him disect every single defense he faced. Look at the efficiency leaders in college football. There are two types of QB’s in the top 10. One type plays weak competition and/or plays out of a non-pro style offense. The other is Jimmy Clausen.
He decimated Washington and Stanford literally carving them up on what ever play was called.
McShay, you and Mark May can go sit and spin.
Actually, I counted 9 balls in that video that if thrown to anyone but Tate...
…would have been INT’d or batted down easily. Probably all INT’d against NFL Corners/Safeties. That ball floats on him, and is under thrown more than you’d like to admit.
That said, I think he’s a good prospect, just not #1 overall.
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"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
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A mantra for all athletes.
I would expect a Rams fan to say that.
by TheRealSlimShady on Jan 16, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
The jury is out on Clausen
his tenure at ND is sketchy. His skills are not great, but that does not mean he will be a bust. Ryan Leak and Akili Smith had great skills and where are they now? I believe a lot will depend on where he goes. He benefits from being in the draft in a year where there are not many top QBs and arguably no elite QBs at all, so his value is inflated a bit. If he goes to some team that needs him to start next year, I think he struggles. But if he can be a backup for a year or two, he could become a quality QB in the NFL.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
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by lookingdeadred on Jan 17, 2010 12:17 PM EST reply actions
Agreed: McShay is way off base here.
If he wants to argue that Clausen played a weak schedule and didn’t fare well against tougher competition than he may have a better argument. But to question arm strength and accuracy is just completely inaccurate.
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