Point/Counterpoint: Luke Harangody
As reported by the AP, Luke Harangody is putting his name in the NBA Draft, but is leaving open the possibility of returning to school. Since the Hooping Irish seem to have a predilection for blogging (see here and here), perhaps Luke will turn to Rakes for guidance. Let's go to the tape.
Point: It's time to get out. Leave now.
Subpoint 1: Why risk the injury and potential stock plummet? (See Chris Thomas.) Another year in the brutal Big East -- especially without the perimeter help from McAlarney, Ayers, and (sort of) Zeller -- is asking for trouble. He should follow Darius Walker's lead after the 2006 football season and avoid the inevitable physical abuse of a senior year as the only reliable offensive target.
Subpoint 2: Fear of the unknown. The 2009-2010 team will be losing 35 points, 14 rebounds, and 8 assists per game as Zeller, Mac, Ayers, and Hillesland depart. Who fills in? Jackson, Nash, Peoples, the redshirted Abromaitis, the inexperienced Scott, a couple of transfers who have been out of game action for a year, and freshmen? Where do the points come from? And who's shooting three's? Will we have to reinvent our offense? Too many questions.
Subpoint 3: It's a weak draft class. Reports say Luke should go late first round or early second round, and how much higher could he really move? His innate, beautiful weirdness inside has nothing to gain from another year in college, and he's physically ready. It's a great time to cash in.
Counterpoint: You'd be crazy to leave. Stay and graduate.
Subpoint 1: Luke Harangody is not Chris Thomas. Besides the freak pneumonia bout, he's made it through three full Big East seasons no worse for the wear. And while it's tough playing inside, the average NBA career has more touches than one in the NFL, so the Walker analogy breaks down. There's no real rush. He should enjoy being the big man on campus and earn his degree. The NBA isn't going anywhere (maybe).
Subpoint 2: The team might be losing a lot, but there's plenty left. Jackson's shooting and game control should be at their best, and Luke would be crazy to turn down a year of Stockton/Malone (or at least Kidd/Gugliotta) two-man dominance. Peoples showed a new level of competence down the stretch, Nash has a nose for the ball and will take some of the load off on the low post, Hansbrough and Martin are proven, Scott is the most athletic guy we've had in years, Abromaitis will be a year stronger and more confident, and have you SEEN the Joey Brooks highlight reel? '09-'10 won't be a rebuilding year, but a take-advantage-of-an-undoubtedly-easier-Big-East-schedule year.
Subpoint 3: What does surprise NBAer Rob Kurz have that Luke lacks? A perimeter jumper. Luke has shown more extended range each year, and he could use his senior year to push that out toward the NBA three-point line. An improved outside game could inch Luke up into the middle third of the first round in 2010.
Plenty of thinking for Luke to do. Leave your wisdom in the comments.
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Great post
I think the perimeter jumper is the biggest thing here. Gody has added range every season, and if he can continue to increase his skillset to where NBA scouts can project him anywhere from Mark Madsen to Matt Bonner, that’s a very good thing. After the recent success of Chris Quinn and Rob Kurz in the NBA, I firmly believe with KG that anything is possible.
I also just want him to come back. Between the exodus of talent to the NBA and the arrivals of Scott Martin and Ben Hansbrough to provide immediate replacements for some of the departing seniors’ production, the ’10 Hooping Irish will have a much, much easier time in the Big East and could have a very nice season.
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“he should follow Darius Walker’s lead after the 2006 football season”
Really? Can I clarify you are using this as an example why he SHOULD leave? Isn’t Darius Walker example #1 of why he should stay? I mean, the guy didn’t get drafted, and is now on the practice squad of one of the 6 teams in the NFL that has no prime time games. If Gody’s goal is to not be drafted and wind up on the practice squad for the Sacramento Kings, then yes, he should “follow Darius Walker’s lead.”
Walker did a couple of nice things when he had a chance in Houston two years ago, if I remember correctly. Luke is better at basketball than Darius was at football, so the comparison isn’t perfect. I wasn’t trying to compare their level of preparedness, but their analogous situations as the top returning offensive target on a rebuilding team. And what if Darius had in fact returned for the 3-9 campaign? Would he have been more prepared for the NFL? Probably not, and maybe even battered to the point where even the few Texans games wouldn’t have happened.
Three words: Notre Dame degree
Stay in school young fella. The NBA draft doesn’t guarantee anything. That 3-year contract won’t put him away for life. He could get hurt in college or in the NBA, but getting that degree sets him up for life after basketball. And if he stays in the league for 10 years and puts enough money away for the rest of his life, more power to him. Get your degree ’Gody, stay in school.
Hate to say it, but he needs to leave
I will hate to see that production leave the team. However this is a golden opp/window for Luke right now.
1. The CBA in the NBA is likely going to force a lockout after next season
2. Luke will likely be among the top 30 picks. That will guarantee him 3 yrs and 2.5/3.5 million dollars. Essentially setting himself and his family up for life.
3. Next years draft class will be much deeper. So even if he “improves” his game. He is still likely to not help his draft/financial situation
People always seem to talk about guys who hurt their career by leaving early. However there are many examples of guys who stay too long and miss their window as well. Ask Scottie Reynolds and Louis Bullock if they are glad they stayed in hindsight?
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