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How can we make love* if we can't make amends?

* love = exciting home-and-home series

I love a good debate, and that's exactly what I wish this past had been between ND and PSU fans about which one was crazier.  I committed a most deadly sin when I posted a nasty, mean-spirited post meant to spark said debate, then proceeded to drop off the grid for the next five days.  Due to a series of events, some within my control and some most definitely beyond, and then a nice little road trip to South Bend and Chicago I just returned from, I was away from the computer for a long, long while and couldn't defend my position or myself when it came under attack from a litany of Nittany backers, and I apologize profusely for doing that.  Give Rob lots of credit for telling me I really needed to look into things, including texting me as I drove on I-80 West Thursday afternoon telling me I probably should respond to my post, as people were justifiably not happy.

So I'm very sorry for disappearing, and any nasty comments directed my way are most certainly deserved.  Reflecting back on the arsenic-laden anti-PSU fan, I realize I missed the point I wanted to make and just ended up attacking a fanbase for no other reason than I read a couple of comments from random Internet denizens - in comments, no less!  Nearly as bad as messageboards! - that raised my ire.  After a rousing weekend that served as a sneak peak to the glory of senior year and featured my first trip to Wrigley, allow me to try to formulate what I really meant before I hurriedly posted the original anti-PSU piece on Monday morning.

What I meant to get across, and this is surely a sign of an awful writer that I couldn't articulate my thoughts well enough, is that a lot of college football fanbases are crazy, but a lot of them get called out for it.  Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, the SEC (especially Alabama), Southern Cal and a litany of other fans are mocked on the internets for being crazy, set-in-the-past, bandwagoners or just pure evil, yet Penn State fans, who are certainly as crazy about their team - and enjoy telling everyone that - as much as if not more than most of the aforementioned schools, never really get mentioned in that manner.  Even if a few people were informed, the piece did the work, even though it certainly should have been much clearer and just better overall.

Penn State fans, for my basically unprovoked attack and then disappearance in the face of your contention with my comments, I more than welcome you to insult my school, myself and any other aspect of my life until the morning of September 2nd, at which point we shall turn out attention to actual matters of pigskin to be resolved at 6:00 on September 8th.  

And since I've tried to respond to that, we can move onto other legitimate football issues: WTF, Kevin White? And here's MGo's rather comprehensive PSU preview, although there's little mention of the Wolverines basically forcing the Irish to drop them by asking for two straight games in the Big House.

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So instead of saying sorry, just furthur expand your insult to any other big program not named Notre Dame?

by fugimaster24 on Jul 23, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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...no, what I said was a lot of the stuff I said about Penn State could also be said about other programs, but no one ever says it about Penn State.  Notre Dame fans are quite delusional - the dark corners of NDNation are places I don't go at night - but they're always called out and made fun of for it, along with other fanbases (Alabama, for one) while the Lions skate along unchecked.

by CW on Jul 24, 2007 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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fugimaster, you need to know a bit of background on this.  CW grew up a Notre Dame fan in the middle of rabid Penn State territory.  I would not like to assume anything, but, as a PSU fan/alum, odds are that you grew up in Pennsylvania, surrounded by Penn State fans that espoused similar opinions to yours on college football.  

I grew up in an SEC state, amidst some of the most obnoxious and ignorant fans in all of college athletics, all spouting the same company line every year and vigorously firing down those who disagree with them.  My opinions on this athletic program are extraordinarily strong, even though Notre Dame has, to my knowledge, never even played football against this program.  I can't even imagine if Notre Dame were to actually play against this program on the gridiron; my hatred would increase tenfold.  It is a different mindset when you are a long-time supporter of a far-flung team in an area with such a vitriolic hatred of your said team.  

Essentially, endure twenty-plus years of constant and scathing derision on your support in the arena of college athletics, and then watch your favorite team come back and play this same program for the first time since you were nary a child.  Emotions would run very high.  CW is a level-headed person who would not take gratuitous potshots at a program if he did not see fit.

by JudgeElihuSmails on Jul 24, 2007 5:14 AM EDT reply actions  

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